Re: OT: Where to find Macintosh groups??

[Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>]

In article <Ls-dnV3zyoubRprfRVn-hA@comcast.com>,
 "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Don Bruder" <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:eEQNd.5779$m31.72055@typhoon.sonic.net...
> : In article <d5OdnaLV-eNEK5rfRVn-rw@comcast.com>,
> :  "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> wrote:
> :
> : > "Don Bruder" <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote in message
> : > news:yTNNd.5742$m31.72027@typhoon.sonic.net...
> : > : In article <110f20vou989423@corp.supernews.com>,
> : > :  "cbmeeks" <cbm    at     s i g n a l d e v      d o t   k o m> wrote:
> : > :
> : > : > Sorry to post here..
> : > : >
> : > : > Anyway, I am looking for a newsgroup that is as active as this one
> but
> : > for
> : > : > the Macintosh.
> : > : > For some reason, my stupid ISP doesn't seem to have any that I can
> find.
> : > :
> : > : Your headers show that you're posting via Supernews, which likely
> means
> : > : you're getting your usenet feed from them too. If Supernews doesn't
> : > : carry it, there probably isn't a newsgroup for it. In other words,
> : > : you're not looking very hard. With about 5 keystrokes, most every
> : > : newsreader I know about can pull you up a list of all groups on a
> server
> : > : containing a string you specify. I wonder what happens if the
> specified
> : > : string is "mac"? Hmmm... Let's see... Open the "full grouplist"
> : > : window... hit "command-F", type "mac" and hit return... On my server,
> : > : there are dozens, some looking like they'll be in languages I can't
> : > : read. And I already know that my ISP only carries a relatively small
> : > : sub-section of the Supernews feed on their internal servers.
> : > :
> : > : Even Microsoft malware usually has SOME sort of built-in help
> mechanism.
> : > : Please... Use it. You wouldn't want a 16 year old who'd never even
> seen
> : > : a car trying to drive, depsite the concept being legal, would you?
> Well,
> : > : your post shows you to be identical to that 16 year old kid, only with
> a
> : > : newsreader instead of a car. He's pulling out onto the street, you're
> : > : pulling out onto the information superhighway. Drive carefully, and
> look
> : > : out for speed bumps and sharp curves! :)
> : > :
> : > : First hint: Dump "Outhouse Depress" and get a real newsreader. Why in
> : > : god's name are you torturing yourself with that pile of crap? What
> : > : hideous crime from a past life are you trying to atone for??? Didja
> : > : poison a pope? Maybe you ran over a puppy? :) But seriously... Outlook
> : > : is just inherently "wrong" on so many levels... Particularly if you're
> : > : running a Mac! EXCELLENT newsreaders are available, and for nothing
> more
> : > : than the time it takes to download them. Outlook is the radioactive
> : > : mutant ninja zit on the nose of Usenet compared to almost any of them.
> : > : Assuming you're using a Mac - and why else would you be asking about
> : > : Mac-oriented groups? - MT-NewsWatcher is often hailed as being at or
> : > : near the top of the heap. Hogwasher is another, though I personally
> : > : didn't care for it - more a personal taste thing than any shortcoming
> of
> : > : the program.
> : >
> : > Hey Don, either be supportive, or shut the hell up.
> : > Your derogatory remarks only detract from the kind of help
> : > these newsgroups are perporting to provide. I sit here and
> : > read your petty bullshit and wish you'd just go away. Please,
> : > you're giving me a freaking headache.
> :
> : Are you by any chance a diabetic, Bill? If so, I'd say it's time to
> : check your sugar. Your post sounds EXACTLY like a former roomie
> : of mine when he wasn't paying proper attention to his diet/meds, and
> : his sugar started getting high.
> 
> No, I am not diabetic, by any definition of the term.

Hokay. Looked kinda like a duck, quacked kinda like a duck, but I 
couldn't see or hear it clear enough to be certain whether it really was 
a duck. 

> Take notice to your use of the word "former". Why
> are they a "former" roomie?? Could it be you finally
> got to them so bad that they had to leave???

Well, I guess maybe that could be said... If one were desperately 
fishing for something to say. But as I recall, he was actually going 
back to his hometown in Indiana after graduating from the local college 
with a music degree, to take up the mantle of his new position as 
assistant/apprentice/something-or-other music director for the church 
that sponsored his schooling. Somehow that just doesn't seem like quite 
the kind of response you appear to be hoping for, though...

Tip: Keep the ad-hominem to a dull roar, wouldja? Remember that it's the 
words you don't like, not the person, who you don't know from Adam...

> : Yeah, he too hated me saying so at first, but after realizing that each
> : and every time he heard "Check your sugar, Rob" out of me, he'd test and
> : find out he was dangerously high, he eventually came to be thankful,
> : since each time, it saved him yet another trip to the emergency room to
> : deal with sugar so high he couldn't bring it back down without medical
> : help.
> :
> : As far as my "methods" of education... <shrug> Maybe they sting a
> : little. That's all to the good, I'd say... Without a bit of "sting" to
> : make it memorable, lessons are all too easily forgotten. I know I for
> : one remember one helluva lot better for next time when the "learning"
> : involves a modicum of "pain" than when the answer is handed to me on a
> : platter...
> 
> Try kindness first. I've had no problem teaching people anything
> using kind words, and without insulting their very nature. You compared
> that person to a 16 year old. THINK, damn it. How would you like it
> if someone had said that about you, and insulted the very software they
> have depended on for maybe more years than they can count. I know
> I don't like it and you didn't even say it to ME!

Sorry, Bill, but to be blunt, your dislike for something I say (or 
perhaps more properly, your dislike for how I said it) is a matter of 
supreme indifference on my part. It's your opinion, and you're entitled 
to it. Just don't delude yourself into thinking your opinion means 
anything more to me than the price of pincherries in Peoria.

(... I wonder if there's a market for pincherries in Peoria? But WHICH 
Peoria? Bah... doesn't matter...)

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