Re: Help Identify Possible ROM 0 Apple IIgs

[Jalapeno <jalapeno1@mac.com>]

In article <6fe0711e.0203311950.60c7a9a1@posting.google.com>,
 r_beaudry@hotmail.com (Rich Beaudry) wrote:

> Hello all, 
> 
> In helping a local school sell off some old computers (see
> comp.sys.apple2.marketplace), I found three Apple IIgs CPUs that are a
> bit odd to me.  Here are the oddities:
> 
> - Upon powerup, only a simple "Apple IIgs" appears at the top of the
> screen.  No copyright notice at the bottom, and no ROM version number
> at the bottom.
> 
> - The sticker on the bottom only says "Copyright Apple Computer,
> Inc."... blah blah blah... Every ROM 01 that I've seen has "Copyright
> 1987 Apple Computer, Inc.", and every ROM 3 that I've seen has
> "Copyright 1989 Apple Computer, Inc."
> 
> - The ROM chip (only one) next to the CPU says "342-0077-A", and
> "Copyright Apple 78,81,83,86"  The ROM 01 machine I've seen say
> "342-0077-B", and "Copyright Apple 78,81,83,86,87".
> 
> - The CPU is the same part number as some ROM 01s, but has a "-3" at
> the end, not a "-4" as in other ROM 01 machines
> 
> Is this a ROM 0 Apple IIgs?
> 
> Any ideas on how many were made?
> 
> Any offers? :-)
> 
> Thanks for any information you can provide....
> 
> Rich B.

Sounds like a Rom 0 to me.

Supertimer used to post this (it gives the number of "Woz" Rom 0's but 
not the total number of Rom 0 IIGS' made before the Rom 01 was 
delivered, and quite a few were made without the "Woz" on the lid):

 + - + - + - + Google archive begin + - + - + - +

From: supertimer@aol.com (Supertimer)
Subject: Re: Apple II quantities?
Date: 1999/12/04
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bill_h <bill_h@sunsouthwest.com> wrote:

>I may have simply missed it, but does anyone know of a website
>with some statistics about the numbers of the various Apples
>that were ever built? I'm asking because I've seen some rather
>specious claims made (on eBay, of course) with regard to 'rarity'.

I    -----    approx. 200
][    -----    approx. 100,000
][+  -----    approx. 1 million
//e  -----    approx. 6 million
//c  -----    approx. 3 million
IIc+  -----    approx. 100,000
IIgs  -----    approx. 1.5 million

Of the IIGS units, the first fifty thousand were Woz signature
edition boxes (having Steve Wozniak's signature on the box).

The only really rare models are the Apple I, the Apple II,
and the Apple IIc Plus.  However, of these, the Apple
IIc Plus is very very rare outside the USA because Apple
never sold it there.  The IIc Plus rightly commands a
premium in other countries (Europe, Asia, even Canada).

While there are only 50,000 Woz signature edition IIGS
units, the fact that they originally had "flawed" ROMs
and graphics chips means that they are less desirable
than the later IIGS units to many people, so Woz IIGS
units can't really be considered collectable even if they
are passed off this way (understandably so) on eBay.
The problem with Woz IIGS units is this: they do not
represent the Apple IIGS that well.  When you collect
a rare Apple IIc Plus, you can be sure it represents the
IIc Plus line.  When you collect an Apple I, you can be
sure it represents an Apple I.  But the Woz IIGS does
not represent the IIGS unless they were fixed by
replacing the ROM and graphics chips.  You cannot
run most IIGS software on an original Woz IIGS without
replacing those chips.