Re: Help with Apple IIc+ and ProTerm on BBS

["thedm" <thedm@idir.net>]

I use a 28.8 on my IIgs ROM01 and can talk fine at 19200. But no faster.

Randy Shackelford <shack@deimos.frii.com> wrote in article
<5gmovg$6vj$1@europa.frii.com>...
> In article <5gmhmo$27u4@uni.library.ucla.edu>,
>  <pubpc1@library.ucla.edu> wrote:
> >shack@deimos.frii.com (Randy Shackelford) wrote:
> >>Tilghman Lesher wrote:
> >>>QuickPort II.  Yoshi.  Digital Exodus.  Faster port speeds.
> >>
> >>I used Proterm and tried the port at 57600 and at 38400. The modem
> >>wouldn't stay connected with the port speed higher than 19200. Granted,
I
> >>didn't try very hard to figure out why, since I never planned to use
the
> >>V.everything on the IIgs. It was only recently that I decided to pull
the
> >>Linelink out of the closet and put in on the IIgs in place of the
Courier
> >>2400e I had had on there. I can't imagine making use of 14400 on a IIgs
> >>anyway.
> >
> >Tip: Just because you don't use your IIgs to its full potential, it
> >     does not follow that everyone else has packed up and gone Mac.
> 
> Looks like you edited my article a little. I said I can't imagine making
> use of >14400 (greater than 14400) and the quoted text up there says
> making use of 14400.
> 
> I don't recall any advocacy in my article up there. Just relating that
> I did try the port at higher speeds, which the person whom I followed
> up didn't seem to think. Here's a question for you: Suppose you have a
> box with TCP connectivity and can do FTP, WWW, telnet, etc, and a box
> that can only function as a VT100 terminal. You have a 33600 modem and
> a 14400 modem to use with them. Which gets the 33600 and which gets the
> 14400? I just tried the 33600 on the IIgs as an experiment and found that
> it didn't work worth a hoot. Kinda like when I tried to get my 230 mb
> magneto optical to work.
> 
> >There are many of us who use the IIgs for telecommunications and we
> >want the maximum speed.  Now, granted, if you don't have a hardware
> >handshaking cable, you may have problems.  You might also need an
> >accelerator card to make good on the connect speed (even on a stock
> >IIgs, however, the modem will connect at top speed with the proper
> >cable...just might use the flow control more).
> 
> Be a little hard to use the V.everything on the Mac without one, dontcha 
> think?
> 
> >I suspect your problem is that you are running ProTERM by launching
> >from the Finder?  If you have any DA/extension installed that eats
> >up precious interrupt time, ProTERM will choke at higher speeds.  The
> >solution is to bypass GS/OS completely, booting up directly to
> >ProDOS 8 (by pressing the '8' key during boot-up).  Try it - the extra
> >speed of a higher speed connect is awesome.  It will make 14.4 seem
> >like 2400 (although you mainly notice it in file transfers).  Even
> >on a 14.4, you should have a port speed of at least 38400 to make
> >error correction and data compression work properly.
> 
> 14400 seems fast after using the 2400e. That's a USR modem that connects
> at 2400 but provides 9600 throughput with data compression, in case you
> haven't heard of it. I'm perfectly happy with 14400.
> 
> >Randy, incidentally, this problem also crops up on Macintosh
> >computers.  Running a terminal program (White Knight or Zterm, I
> >forget which one...it was several years ago), the Mac would choke
> >on a high speed connection.  I could not figure out why, until I
> >removed a clock extension!  That one change made the difference
> >between successful high speed modeming and not.  You see, I
> >am NOT a Mac hater...I've used Macintosh, Amiga, PC, and IIgs
> >computers.  It is just that I'm not as big a Mac advocate as you. :)
> >Now the Apple IIgs is something that I will support till the end!
> >The IIgs was and still is my primary computer for wp and modeming
> >(although the little '486 sits quietly until Netscape is needed).
> 
> I find using an FTP client much easier than the ftp/zmodem rigmarole, I
> kinda like having a graphical web browser, and having multiple logins at
> the same time using a telnet app is cool too. All running at the same
time
> quite often, and playing an audio CD out the internal speaker to boot.
But 
> to each his own. I practically have no need for a modem on the IIgs since
I
> can ftp files for it then localtalk 'em over. That's why the 2400e was on

> there for so long, but I decided it takes up too much desk space.
> -- 
> Randy Shackelford                                 
> shack@frii.com                                    
>