Re: Getting files from a pc => mac => IIGS and/or a IIe

[Greg Buchner <apple22@mn.rr.com>]

In article <6rydnep_tpm24grenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
 "Michael J. Mahon" <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote:

> Greg Buchner wrote:
> > In article <qd6dnXHcucu3BAveRVn-pA@comcast.com>,
> >  "Michael J. Mahon" <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Since the Mac only handles I/O, but never moves the floppy
> >>file into a Mac filesystem, it doesn't get a fork in the first place.
> > 
> > 
> > Common misconception.  The Mac doesn't always automatically add a 
> > resource fork to any file it touches.
> > 
> > When Mac OS is adding a resource fork in this situation is when the file 
> > is being copied from an HFS/HFS+ volume to a ProDOS volume.  Mac OS adds 
> > the resource fork to retain all the Mac filesystem info like Filetype 
> > and Creator.
> 
> Since I always copied files from a PC disk to the Mac hard disk,
> then copied the files to the ProDOS disk, I *always* got a fork added.
> (I only had one 3.5" floppy drive.)  So I came by my misconception
> honestly.  ;-)

Figured that.  I've only done Apple II's and Macs so I had gotten to 
know quite a bit of this stuff.

> Frankly, avoiding forks with a Mac is non-intuitive--as are forks
> themselves, since so few file systems use them.  The concept of
> associating meta-data with a file is a good one, but it becomes
> quite intrusive on the Mac, particularly when it is only trying
> to "preserve" attributes that it invented when the non-forked file
> was copied to the Mac in the first place.  It seems like it would
> have been a good idea to add a "non-essential" attribute to forks,
> or at least a "fork free" attribute to a (ProDOS or PC) volume.  ;-)

Yea, but from the Mac point of view (pre-OS X), you shouldn't have to 
avoid them.  They're a natural part of the system and why would you need 
to use anything else.  ;-)  With OS X, they've done away with the need 
for resource forks, so naturally we've joined the Windows world of 
thousands of little files being installed on the hard drive...

But I remembered I still have a program sitting around called ProType 
that should help.  Short description at:

<http://www.apple2.org.za/mirrors/ground.icaen.uiowa.edu/Mac/ProTYPE11.hq
x.docs.txt>

The file can be found at:

<http://www.apple2.org.za/mirrors/ground.icaen.uiowa.edu/Mac/>

StuffIt Expander is needed to access this archive.

Greg B.

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