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Re: Apple II Oasis
In article <39e23f9d_2@news3.prserv.net>,
Tom Zuchowski <tzuchow@attglobal.net> wrote:
>Paul, it's not the money, it's the principal of the thing. Yes, I would
>prefer to spend MORE money to pay the author directly rather than be ripped
>off by his US-based collection agency. You have made it plain that you feel
>this is stupid. I think that principal is worth a few bucks. If I were that
>serious about the lousy six bucks, I would just use it for free or use other
>alternatives.
I don't think you're stupid in not wanting to pay $6 extra to pay with
a check -- I too avoided paying by a check. However, my main objection
to paying by check was not the cost but the time it would take (several
weeks).
>I might add that once you have become a victim of recurring credit-card
>fraud, you may become a wee bit more cautious. I just finished a
>6-month-long process of getting a terrible mess straightened out that
>involved many long-distance calls and quite a lot of my time and emotional
>energy, and I still don't know what effect it may ultimately have on my
>credit report.
Will you get rid of your credit card? If you don't, it may happen
again.... and then maybe not when you use it over the Internet but
when you use it in a shop.
I guess it's natural to feel uneasy by using something you've had
bad experiences from before -- and this doesn't only apply to credit card
frauds, but to all sorts of things: car accidents, fires in your home,
you name it. However the risk of it happening again won't get bigger
after it has happened once.
Life involves risks, and trying to avoid all risks will make your
life quite dull. A credit card fraud is after all just a matter of
money -- there are worse accidents than that which can happen to you.
If you wish you could consider those extra $6 an "insurance fee" against
credit card fraud at that occasion -- but obviosuly you think that
"fee" is too high.
>I guess eventually we will all handle these kinds of transactions with
>disposable one-time credit card numbers. I look forward to having that
>option.
Disposable one-time credit card numbers won't help if the one you're
paying to is doing the fraud.
But perhaps your main concern was an eavesdropper who picked up your
credit card number? Well, you don't need to worry about that in
this particular case: the credit card number was sent encrypted over
a secure connection, and no eavesdropper could intercept it -- only
the recipent could decrypt it. Magic? No - just public key cryptography.
This of course requires you to use a web broswer which supports this. I
used Netscape 4.7, but if you're e.g. a Mosaic or Lynx user, you cannot
use a secure channel like this, because those browsers don't support that.
>Tom Zuchowski
>
>
>"Paul Schlyter" <pausch@saafNOSPAM.se> wrote in message
>news:8rrmfd$jme$1@merope.saaf.se...
>> In article <39E0E105.50D0F62F@inetnebr.com>,
>> Roy and/or Janet Miller <millers@inetnebr.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Paul Schlyter wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tom Zuchowski <tzuchow@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Well, I decided not to register this fine program after all.
>> >>>
>> >>> When I went to the online registry, it tried to charge me an
>additional
>> >>> $6.00 fee if I paid by check rather than give my credit card to some
>> >>> random web site.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think you need to be that paranoid about leaving out your
>> >> credit card number.
>> >
>> > Perhaps Paul, he just doesn't like the idea of having to pay an
>> > additional 6 dollars to send them a check.
>>
>> Neither do I, so that's why I didn't send them a check. BTW if I
>> sent a foreign check, I wouldn't only have to pay a mere $6 extra, I
>> would also have to pay my own bank an additional $10 (ca). Therefore
>> I use checks only when there's no other reasonable alternative, and
>> when I think it's worth that extra cost.
>>
>> > Not everyone has credit cards,
>>
>> He did though -- note his phrase "my credit card" above....
>>
>> > and, of course, not everyone likes them. So when he complains about a
>> > registration in excess of $25, he's talking about $25 plus a $6 fee,
>> > which, of course, equals $31.
>>
>> If he doesn't like the cheaper alternative -- well that's really his
>> problem. I find it hard to understand why one doesn't "like" a way
>> of payment that is both cheaper (in this case some $6+$10 = $16
>> cheaper for me) and faster (2 minutes, compared to 1-2 weeks of
>> sending a check by snail mail). The risk of being frauded, while
>> present, is IMO being greatly exaggreated by many people. Of course
>> common sense applies here as well as in other cases: don't give out
>> your credit card to ANYONE, no matter whether it's web sites or
>> restaurants....
>>
>> --
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>
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