Re: ANN: Retiring from A2 world - Good Bye All!

["Donald L. Johnson" <70524.1023@Compuserve.com>]

----------
In article <3D098EA5.8060000@home.nl>, Ruud Dingemans <rtech@home.nl> wrote:


>Gary R. Utter wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>Erm, no - the argument started with today's situation ("glad/bad that 
>Turley's gone") and then several persons turned to the stone age past 
>(again) to revive arguments that should've and could've been buried eons 
>ago.
>
>
>> no interest in getting involved in. The original discussion (go back to
>> the beginning, willya?) was about the fact that Tom is unpopular 
>
>
>Doesn't sound a lot like past past tense to *me*   ;)
>
>
>> hated for real and specific reasons, and he chooses to say that those
>> reasons are irrelevant because the Apple II is a dead platform.
>
>Well, he's right in the sense that it's not much use spewing or reviving 
>these old grudges in an era where it doesn't matter anymore.
>
>We understand WHY it happened, but since the reasons for the grudge 
>(pirating profitable AII software) are basically irrelevant *now*, it's 
>not needed to go on grudgin' *now*. Just let it rest.
>

(more snip)


>Regards, Rudy
---------------

That's easier said than done, Rudy.  
Time may heal all wounds, but some take a whole lot longer than others to
heal.  

The question was why so many here are happy to see Turley go away, and hope
this time it's really forever.  We've tried to answer that question, but
neither you nor Paul seem to want to accept our answers.

Charles T. "Dr. Tom" Turley, by his piracy, and by his personal attacks,
both online and off, did damage to many Apple II software developers and
marketers, driving many away from both the Apple II marketplace and the AII
community.  That pain and enmity still lingers, stronger in some than in
others.  To you, it may be interesting history, old news from a time long
past.  To those who were there, and harmed by him, it is as relevant and
current as tomorrow's evening news.  

Ask the IRA and the Ulster Nationalists to just let it go.  Ask the Israelis
and the Palestinians why they can't just get along.  Or the Hutus and Tutsis
in Rwanda, or the many ethnic groups in the former Yugoslavia.  It isn't
rational, it doesn't matter how much the situation has changed over the
years.  It's pure emotion.  They remember past grievances, and can't yet let
them go unavenged. 

Turley evokes a similar reaction in some of us here.  When he posted his
'going away' message, I couldn't resist posting my doubts, and neither could
others.  I can't help but wonder if that is just the reaction he wanted. 
Someone made a comment to the extent that he may still be lurking, waiting
to return in response to our skepticism about his departure.  If that is
true, then our doubts are well-founded, that he never intended to leave - he
was taunting us again, rubbing salt in the old wounds.

And so the cycle continues.


Donald
Submariner, retired